Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin

Grant Bowie · Post by **Grant Bowie** » October 9th, 2012, 5:41 pm

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for suggesting the expnding of this thread.

One observation is the use of the hanging/underneath branches by Mr lin. You should not over fertilise or you will get too much growth, too much foliage, too much shade and then lose or weaken the lower/hanging branches.

I transfered the penjing inthe very shallow pot into a slightly deeper pot as it already looked thirsty. I slip potted it only. The mix is very fine.

Grant

Post by **Steven** » July 15th, 2015, 9:10 am

Thought I'd update this thread after defoliating and trimming last night. I removed the wire I had put on last winter as well as removing a couple of small branches.

90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.

Anyone else have any updates on Mr. Lin's tree's?

2015 July A.jpg

Regards,
Steven

Grant Bowie · Post by **Grant Bowie** » July 15th, 2015, 9:59 am

Thats looking really good. Keep the hanging branch for sure!!!

Grant

thoglette · Post by **thoglette** » July 15th, 2015, 1:54 pm

Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.

90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.

wcrmad posted an example herein another thread

Jarad · Post by **Jarad** » July 15th, 2015, 2:31 pm

thoglette wrote:
Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.

wcrmad posted an example herein another thread

How often do you see a perfect tree in nature anyway? The little imperfections make them look more natural.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » July 15th, 2015, 2:43 pm

ulmus parvifolia.jpg

This is one I got hold of about 5 years ago.

064.jpg

Another which was on display at the BSV annual show a few years ago. I believe this still belongs to the Lin family

dansai · Post by **dansai** » July 15th, 2015, 2:48 pm

If you were going to take the hanging branch you would also have to take the trunk like branch above it going straight up and you would be left with a standard semi cascade. Awesome, and perfect, the way it is.

Interestingly this thread led me to look at the threads linked above on Penjing and I saw a few comments about Chinese styling to be "grotesque" or extreme and Japanese to be Natural. I've never seen a Black Pine in nature before, but I have seen photos and not one has looked anything like a Black Pine Bonsai.

dansai · Post by **dansai** » July 15th, 2015, 2:50 pm

Love that semi cascade. The way the trunk just wanders along so flowingly and at peace. Beautiful.

Grant Bowie · Post by **Grant Bowie** » July 15th, 2015, 3:25 pm

Gerard wrote:
ulmus parvifolia.jpg
This is one I got hold of about 5 years ago.
064.jpg
Another which was on display at the BSV annual show a few years ago. I believe this still belongs to the Lin family

The cascade Penjing is on display at the NBPCA currently.

grant

Boics · Post by **Boics** » July 15th, 2015, 3:39 pm

Steven wrote:Thought I'd update this thread after defoliating and trimming last night. I removed the wire I had put on last winter as well as removing a couple of small branches.

90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.

Anyone else have any updates on Mr. Lin's tree's?

2015 July A.jpg
Regards,
Steven

I sit in the 10% forum and vote a resounding "NO" to removing the hanging branch!

Lovely tree Steven!

two40 · Post by **two40** » July 15th, 2015, 4:30 pm

Jarad wrote:
thoglette wrote:
Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.

wcrmad posted an example herein another thread
How often do you see a perfect tree in nature anyway? The little imperfections make them look more natural.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm relatively new to Bonsai so my naivete might be showing but a lot of the examples I'm seeing from the very experienced artists are too clinically perfect. I do like small imperfections; just like mother nature has, just like we all possess.

dansai · Post by **dansai** » July 15th, 2015, 6:42 pm

Why is the hanging branch considered an imperfection

Isn't it part of the design

Rory · Post by **Rory** » July 15th, 2015, 7:02 pm

The answer to your question Steven, of whether to keep the hanging branch should be sung by the new kids on the block:

"Hangin' tough, hangin' tough, we're rough!
Everybody's always talkin' 'Bout what's on top

Yo! Check it out!
Hangin' tough"

...sigh

sorry guys. I found 1.21 giggawatts and took a delorian back to 1988.... let the good times roll.

Andrew F · Post by **Andrew F** » July 15th, 2015, 7:16 pm

It's fantastic the way it is.

Jarad · Post by **Jarad** » July 16th, 2015, 4:58 pm

dansai wrote:Why is the hanging branch considered an imperfection

Isn't it part of the design

I guess imperfection was the wrong word. The branch "looks" out of place, but gives it a more natural feel and I like it.

AusBonsai

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