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Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 8th, 2012, 2:32 pm
by MoGanic
lakepipes wrote:Hi Mo,
I've been having a bit of a read of the post that you have made.
While it is easily seen that you have a lot of enthusiasm, may I be as bold as to suggest slowing down just a little?
There are a lot of questions you have been asking, re when to dig, what tree is this, what type of soil, when is the best is time to...???
These are all good and fair questions, but I personally feel that you would benefit greatly by attending your local bonsai club and just chatting with the members.
There are plenty of good clubs around vic, drop by one and ask as many questions as you can, from as many people as you can.
You will learn a lot from reading (even on-line), but there is nothing like face to face contact with other enthusiasts and by actually trying out different things. you learn a lot by doing.
Once you get some of the basics under your belt, your journey through bonsai will become a lot easier.
It’s very easy to kill a tree by applying the wrong techniques, or even kill it by applying the right ones at the wrong time.
Take your time because with bonsai patience really is the best way.
Just my
Good luck with your trees.
Mike
Hey Mike,
Yeah I'm leaving it be for now until around spring time, but was thinking of a tad trimming just to encourage some back-budding. I will, however, take what knowledge I have of the plant itself to my local Bonsai Nursery (blokes there are very experienced and should definitely be able to assist).
I like what you said about killing trees by applying correct techniques incorrectly! Will keep this in mind.
Cheers mate,
Mo
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 8th, 2012, 4:12 pm
by chipper5
Was having a look and i'm thinking it could be a Westringia? Hopefully the nursery will be able to give you a definite but if it is they are pretty hardy!
Chipper5
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 8th, 2012, 4:22 pm
by MoGanic
chipper5 wrote:Was having a look and i'm thinking it could be a Westringia? Hopefully the nursery will be able to give you a definite but if it is they are pretty hardy!
Chipper5
Hey mate, sounds viable although I've never seen this plant flower in the 13 years it's been sitting there (could be due to poor conditions).
Side note: this plant was here when we moved in and the bloke before us was the guy who planted it... he built the whole house actually. Which was 11 years old 13 years ago. So this plant is... in short.. OLD
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 9th, 2012, 7:50 pm
by Stu_my
Rosemary?
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 9th, 2012, 8:44 pm
by MoGanic
Stu_my wrote:Rosemary?
I shall taste tomorrow!
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 10th, 2012, 12:27 am
by MattA
MoGanic wrote:Stu_my wrote:Rosemary?
I shall taste tomorrow!
Dont go tasting it, crush a few leaves & smell. I just had another look at the pics & think it could be lavender. If it is, i dont think they will shoot back from bare wood nor transplant real well. I have dug 3, all were moved from gardenbed to gardenbed but died. My last garden one (grown from a small plant) was chopped back hard last spring & never recovered...
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 10th, 2012, 6:18 am
by Stu_my
Hey Matt, do you know is rosemary back bud? I have a tall skinny one with a nice base that I want to give a big chop
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: May 10th, 2012, 10:15 am
by MattA
Stu_my wrote:Hey Matt, do you know is rosemary back bud? I have a tall skinny one with a nice base that I want to give a big chop
I cant find the thread but from memory a few of us have tried & failed when cutting back past green...
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 17th, 2012, 8:48 pm
by MoGanic
Evening all,
Just a quick update on this tree. Dug and potted, I'm hoping for a better future for this little beast. Just staring at all the deadwood made me DROOOOOOL!
Hoping it survives because I'm fast seeing one or two exquisite literati with some stunning deadwood.
Let me know what you think. Still no idea what species this is though haha walking blind for now.
Also, a lemon! For size comparison.. although the door does a good job too.
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 17th, 2012, 9:10 pm
by MattA
Hey Mo,
It will be great material in the long term. The photo's aren't the best but I think Craig is spot on for ID. Heres hoping it survives & thrives.
Craig wrote:
, it's pretty hard to tell but it looks alot like Melaleuca (maybe incana) foliage, not too sure
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Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 17th, 2012, 10:41 pm
by MoGanic
Mate I wouldn't be surprised if I saw little yellow flowers on this tree near the end of Oct. It definitely fits the bill in all other aspects, just never seen the darn thing flower. That may be attributed to the fact that it got little/no light and poor soil condition where an old pomegranate and hibiscus stole all its nutrients and water.. and light.
If it IS an Incana, that would make it a weeper no? BLOODY excited to take that somewhere **adrenaline out of control**
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 18th, 2012, 12:38 am
by MattA
I havent grown it but a quick search turned up these
http://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/gnp1/melaleuca-incana.html &
http://anpsa.org.au/m-inc.html
The first shows a pendulous habit & yellow flowers
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 18th, 2012, 12:46 am
by chrisatrocky
haven't got a clue what it is but looks very interesting.
chris
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 18th, 2012, 11:40 am
by Gerard
Possibly 'melaleuca bracteata'
The bark looks very similar to this group
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This has been chosen for the promotional posters for the Bonsai Society of Victoria's annual show (Oct 6-7 Box Hill Town Hall)
You will be able to see it first hand.
As you can see this species is very well suited to bonsai as are many of the melaleucas.
Re: No idea what species this is but looks hectic!
Posted: August 18th, 2012, 11:51 am
by Sabamiki AKA Craig
Craig wrote: , it's pretty hard to tell but it looks alot like Melaleuca (maybe incana) foliage, not too sure
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I think if your wanting to dig this big'un up then you may want to spend some time beforehand pruning it , so as to encorage backbudding ( if it backbuds at all ) and chase the foliage back closer to the parts of the trunks you would most likely keep to train as bonsai.A positive ID would be fairly useful aswell.. No real point digging a tree up that has foliage too far from the areas needed. good luck
id be of the same thinkin
