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Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 2:20 pm
by Craig
Grant Bowie wrote:Hi Craig,
The golden cedar is a Deodara and it is mine.
The one you have labeled as NBc is an English national collection tree and not NBPCA; however we do have an Atlantic cedar at the collection.
Grant
Thanks Grant, i remembered it was an English tree and altered my post to include a link.
Yep ,i love your tree, cedrus deodara- golden aurea ,
https://www.qscaping.com/netps-engine.as ... p&PID=8377, i had a small one a few years ago, they are a lovely tree

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Grant Bowie wrote:however we do have an Atlantic cedar at the collection.
I think this is the tree -
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Thanks Stew, i'm not a huge fan of Goshin, sorry

Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 2:32 pm
by Grant Bowie
Hi Craig,
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here is a slightly more recent photo of the Joe Micalef cedar.
The Atlantic cedars( we own 1, have 1 on loan and another one that is being worked on) at the collection have been growing very vigorously this year ; more than I remember in previous years.
Grant
Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 2:49 pm
by Craig
Appreciate that pic Grant thanks mate
Here's one for Lisa ,

, i can't remember where it came from ,
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Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 4:01 pm
by LLK
Hi Craig,
I hope your AC is working well. It's got to 29 C. here today, which is hot for this year's cool summer. Anyway, thanks for your kind words as well as for the examples of cedars and branches.
Here's one for Lisa , , i can't remember where it came from ,
That's a very pretty blue atlas cedar. Thanks again and yeah, that's my kinda styling.
I tried to find examples of ancient Deodara specimen trees on the internet, but almost all images were of forests and young or youngish uprights. However, I found a couple of illustrations which show that, although the Deodara is indeed an upright tree, there's upright and upright.... VERY upright and upright after many centuries of weather vagaries.
BTW, the C. deodara is Pakistan't national tree.
Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 5:50 pm
by Craig
Thanks Lisa, no aircon and about 40 degrees , 22% humidity.
Once again i'm forced to think long and hard,

Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 7:42 pm
by LLK
Sh...oot! I am very sorry for all you overheated WA sufferers! I remember well our early days when the kids were small, our house had neither AC, insulation or blinds... We used to spread a sheet over the kids at night and spray that with water at regular intervals, so that the evaaporation gave them some cool. It worked too, they slept until the night cooled off. The beer was kept for Dad.
I hope you and your trees weather this weather!
Lisa
Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 8:19 pm
by Matthew
craig they tend themselves to formal uprights well, ill post a recent pic of my large one at 1m if you want, hopefully the transplant goes ok its being HOT here too around 36 last week or so, maybe some needed rain tomorrow and monday

Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 28th, 2012, 8:22 pm
by Craig
Yes please Mathew , cheers

Re: A Cedar
Posted: January 31st, 2012, 11:22 pm
by Craig
Controversial
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Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 1st, 2012, 5:00 am
by Matthew
Craig wrote:Controversial
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Craig
I like that virt alot, much more mature looking. pic is still coming.
Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 1st, 2012, 5:41 am
by Andrew Legg
Craig,
Any experience with grafting buds/branches on cedars? I have my eye on a local tree - think its a Atlas, but not sure. Problem is that it has lost its inside branches over time and will only make a good tree if I can get the foliage closer to the trunk. I beleive backbudding is not a Cedar's strong point!
Cheers,
Andrew
Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 1st, 2012, 4:39 pm
by Sabamiki AKA Craig
very interesting

Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 1st, 2012, 5:34 pm
by Craig
Matthew wrote:I like that virt alot, much more mature looking. pic is still coming.
Thanks Matthew, i'm pulled strongly in that direction , no worries on the pic, whenever u get time mate.
Andrew Legg wrote:Any experience with grafting buds/branches on cedars?

None at all, but when i first bought this one it had and still does have, small shoots from bases of branch and trunk. Which would lead me to think that up to a certain age ,on a fairly healthy/vigorous tree , they may back bud. But it's just a thought. Other than that-not a clue.

Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 2nd, 2012, 5:48 pm
by Andrew Legg
Andrew Legg wrote:Any experience with grafting buds/branches on cedars?

None at all, but when i first bought this one it had and still does have, small shoots from bases of branch and trunk. Which would lead me to think that up to a certain age ,on a fairly healthy/vigorous tree , they may back bud. But it's just a thought. Other than that-not a clue.

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Thanks. There is a nursery here selling some atlas cedars grafted onto deodars. I guess it must then be possible!
Cheers
Re: A Cedar
Posted: February 2nd, 2012, 6:37 pm
by Craig
yes ,they can definately be grafted Andrew, i've seen at least 2 others grafted onto Deodara rootstock,

, weather or not it would make good bonsai depends on how well the graft was done.