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I thought i'd update this thread.





Iv started compressing the elbow joint little by little every week with a heavier gauge wire and twine. Once its laid over enough, i am going to shari the outside where the trunk changes its course so it looks like reactionary growth.

But before then i need to bend some movement into the dead straight top section of the trunk right before the branches.

Candles are growing, but im still worried about the yellowing needles, its only ever had liquid feed, so any fert suggestions will be appreciated.

Hi VS, Have you fed this pine yet?
Mine often get like this when they have been in the pot for a while - typical nitrogen deficiency (old leaves yellow, new growth green but sometimes smaller than normal - N is a relocatable substance in plants so they take from older leaves to feed new growth). Mine green up in a few weeks after a few doses of high N liquid fert and some slower release (DL or osmocote, etc) added as well for longer term N.

shibui wrote:Hi VS, Have you fed this pine yet?
Mine often get like this when they have been in the pot for a while - typical nitrogen deficiency (old leaves yellow, new growth green but sometimes smaller than normal - N is a relocatable substance in plants so they take from older leaves to feed new growth). Mine green up in a few weeks after a few doses of high N liquid fert and some slower release (DL or osmocote, etc) added as well for longer term N.

I have not fed it yet Shibui [this season] but i will add some dl and liquid ferts now youve mentioned it. I dont know enough about the growth habits of jbp's yet so im taking it slow and easy thanks for the tips. Ill start pumping some nitrogen in to it.

Because of the tree's health should i not worry about breaking the candles just yet?

If you cut candles this early the new ones will be just about as vigorous as these. If you want small candles wait until December to cut. If you want the tree to thicken or grow leave candles alone this season then cut back to old needles next winter. The extra growth will add lots to the trunk and branches.

shibui wrote:If you cut candles this early the new ones will be just about as vigorous as these. If you want small candles wait until December to cut. If you want the tree to thicken or grow leave candles alone this season then cut back to old needles next winter. The extra growth will add lots to the trunk and branches.

Ok ill just feed and clear out any dead needles thanks again Shibui.

Small update, the compression of the elbow is slowly getting there. The colour has come back to the foliage after a hefty feeding regime. Just need to figure out a way of ridding the straight section from the trunk until the branches.

I like the progression.

Keep it coming!

Thank you, will do.

Thought I'd update this thread incase anyone is interested in helping me with this JBP. Since the last time it was posted I gave this guy alot of DL, powerfeed and unabated room to grow. Repotted in late winter into diatomite, it has put on too much growth for my liking. Looking at reducing the needles in time for autumn, is this advisable considering its been repotted last year?

I plan on thinning out the top and leaving the bottom branches to fatten up a bit more.

How'd the thinning of needles go?

Have you looked into acquiring Leong Kwongs pine for the temperate climate book?

Jarad wrote:How'd the thinning of needles go?

Have you looked into acquiring Leong Kwongs pine for the temperate climate book?

Hey mate, Ive been swamped so I didnt end up getting around to it. I was even going to attempt an Autumn decandling as well but the most I can do is 5 mins of watering after work.

And Ive been meaning to get Leongs book if its anything like his ficus book its worth its weight in gold.

I'm not an expert in JBP, I'm still learning, so maybe best to wait until someone with more experience chimes in, but heres my thoughts.

Probably would have been good to cut back to the lowest needles in the top section during summer. I did mine in this thread about 2 weeks ago and its forming new buds already, although I don't expect them to develop until spring. At this stage you could cut back the top to stop the top of the tree thickening for the rest of the season while leaving the bottom, or perhaps thin the needles in the top section to slow it down. But the only way to ensure buds closer to trunk and branches is to have needles where you want them so whatever you do, don't remove needles where you want future branches/ramification to be.

Andrew F wrote: Hey mate, Ive been swamped so I didnt end up getting around to it. I was even going to attempt an Autumn decandling as well but the most I can do is 5 mins of watering after work.

And Ive been meaning to get Leongs book if its anything like his ficus book its worth its weight in gold.

Bummer, skip the watering for a day and pluck some needles, from what I've been reading and hearing they are a lot more durable than we thought. Or maybe mix the quality time with the partner with some mild bonsai-ing, I've just spent 2 hours watching Buffy with the missus while thinning out Sundays J. Squamata purchase.

I reckon the pine book is better than the Ficus book I wasn't going to bother with a JBP till I read his book because I was told they are difficult. We are all going to kill trees, you just gotta learn how to not kill the younger ones before you make the big investment.

Call Leong tomorrow and grab one.

My

Jarad wrote:

Andrew F wrote: Hey mate, Ive been swamped so I didnt end up getting around to it. I was even going to attempt an Autumn decandling as well but the most I can do is 5 mins of watering after work.

And Ive been meaning to get Leongs book if its anything like his ficus book its worth its weight in gold.

Bummer, skip the watering for a day and pluck some needles, from what I've been reading and hearing they are a lot more durable than we thought. Or maybe mix the quality time with the partner with some mild bonsai-ing, I've just spent 2 hours watching Buffy with the missus while thinning out Sundays J. Squamata purchase.

I reckon the pine book is better than the Ficus book I wasn't going to bother with a JBP till I read his book because I was told they are difficult. We are all going to kill trees, you just gotta learn how to not kill the younger ones before you make the big investment.

Call Leong tomorrow and grab one.

My

That was my predicament for the first 3 years of owning this tree, Ive since realized that they are quite hardy in our climate. If anything though the years of neglect have let this jbp power on, and since it was repotted its thumped along steadily.

For the time being Im happy to just grow it on until I get my hands on leongs book.

Thanks guys.