Air Layering
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Re: Air Layering
Great work on the mikawa. I suspect the smell is probably from the damp moss and roots transpiring.
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Updating a week or two after separation of the last layer, all have done very well but none better than the original Kotohime i separated 9 days after seeing roots in the bag for SuperBonSaiyan
Original Kotohime Layer for SuperBonSaiyan base growth now really going mental. If nothing else this should help to get the base to flare a bit even if not needed in future design. /
Here's the shoot extension on the top of the tree since layering was done
Here's what i'm calling the main layer; the large section i purchased the tree for in the first place. Very healthy since separation and even just pushing roots into the spagnum from above the air layer line
Shishi cump A
Shishi clumb B
Shishi layer C. Hopefully it buds back near the trunk but if not then i just cut the thick stem and use the lower thinner branch as the continued trunk line.
Original Kotohime Layer for SuperBonSaiyan base growth now really going mental. If nothing else this should help to get the base to flare a bit even if not needed in future design. /
Here's the shoot extension on the top of the tree since layering was done
Here's what i'm calling the main layer; the large section i purchased the tree for in the first place. Very healthy since separation and even just pushing roots into the spagnum from above the air layer line
Shishi cump A
Shishi clumb B
Shishi layer C. Hopefully it buds back near the trunk but if not then i just cut the thick stem and use the lower thinner branch as the continued trunk line.
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Re: Air Layering
Checked my 3 shindeshojo layers today. Grand Total of one root between the three.
Some of the layers were too wet so it's a good thing i checked. Dried them out a bit. Hopefully they will take in the next few months.
Some of the layers were too wet so it's a good thing i checked. Dried them out a bit. Hopefully they will take in the next few months.
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Re: Air Layering
Dominating the maples guys - I haven’t had much successes.
Rooted a millettia japonica and crab.
Waiting on a magnolia and euonymus.
Rooted a millettia japonica and crab.
Waiting on a magnolia and euonymus.
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I just purchased a young shin Deshojo to give it one more opportunity to layer for me come spring before I just write this cultivar off as not worthwhile air layer materialSuperBonSaiyan wrote: ↑February 12th, 2023, 7:52 pm Checked my 3 shindeshojo layers today. Grand Total of one root between the three.
Some of the layers were too wet so it's a good thing i checked. Dried them out a bit. Hopefully they will take in the next few months.
Might try cuttings as well if I have the material on the tree, but just cut it back due to powdery mildew and sprayed it and all my maples. I’d forgotten how insanely susceptible shin Deshojo is to powdery mildew
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Good job on those two you had success with, air layers are never a guarantee, and you can have them root out but grow awful roots too. Not every layer is a perfect radial set of roots and few ever are.
Magnolia sounds cool, Stellata or a different one?
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Two of my Mikawa Yatsabusa layers were suffering today from the heat. Their leaves had crinkled up by the late afternoon.
I'm going to move them indoors tomorrow, and hope they survive.
I'm going to move them indoors tomorrow, and hope they survive.
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Moving them indoor today is a good idea. As long as the roots didn’t dry out they will be fine. JM leaves are very susceptible to dry out in late summer heat.
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I’ve moved just about all my trees in doors today, they have taken over the living room! I heard 36 degrees and windy afternoon and noped out of that. Not worth the risky with JM
Had a few mature trees get leaf burn from one windy night, not worth it with heat as well. Working on a shade house as we speak to save the ritual of moving trees indoors
Had a few mature trees get leaf burn from one windy night, not worth it with heat as well. Working on a shade house as we speak to save the ritual of moving trees indoors
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I like the look of this one TimS ... from afar at any rate.
Good work with the layers...
In other news ... I got your pic to align correctly!
Basically all I did was open it in photo viewer, rotate it 90deg ... then rotate back and save. It's a trick that has worked for me before and seemed to be succesful with your images too. I think it can be any image viewer/editor, it doesn't make a difference.
Has nice subtle movement and the trunks are kinda dancing to the same tune from what I can see.Good work with the layers...
In other news ... I got your pic to align correctly!
Basically all I did was open it in photo viewer, rotate it 90deg ... then rotate back and save. It's a trick that has worked for me before and seemed to be succesful with your images too. I think it can be any image viewer/editor, it doesn't make a difference.
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Tried your top tip there but sadly still firmly showing to me as the wrong way oriented Ah well, still correct way when you click on it so at least that is workingRyceman3 wrote: ↑February 16th, 2023, 1:46 pm I like the look of this one TimS ... from afar at any rate.
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Has nice subtle movement and the trunks are kinda dancing to the same tune from what I can see.
Good work with the layers...
In other news ... I got your pic to align correctly!
Basically all I did was open it in photo viewer, rotate it 90deg ... then rotate back and save. It's a trick that has worked for me before and seemed to be succesful with your images too. I think it can be any image viewer/editor, it doesn't make a difference.
That layer you mention has some definite promise to it, the main central trunk does move away from view down low, but with a bit of wiring/ training i can make it come back towards again. One of the reasons i love Shishigashira so much is that is it's natural habit on show right there. Strongly upward, gentle movements and very compact growth. For shohin it's hard to beat that combo unless you are going for more cascading style trees.
Doesn't hurt either that it tends to be one of the few JM cultivars i get reliable autumn colour from here at sea level bayside. Mostly the other ones get burnt during summer long before i get a chance to see the autumn show. Shade house isn't too far away now, so hopefully this is the last summer of crispy JM.
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#itsnotmeitsyou
Just playin’ mate, no idea why you are still sideways!
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Re: Air Layering
I note that:
TimS's image has no EXIF orientation information
R3's version has EXIF orientation information
It seems that this information is being stripped from the thumbnails at some point or perhaps the site cannot interpret it since the images are correctly orientated when selected
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Absolute mystery, id try taking a photo with my other phone instead of my shitty Iphone 8, but my other phone is also an Iphone 8terryb wrote: ↑February 20th, 2023, 12:07 pmI note that:
TimS's image has no EXIF orientation information
R3's version has EXIF orientation information
It seems that this information is being stripped from the thumbnails at some point or perhaps the site cannot interpret it since the images are correctly orientated when selected