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Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 21st, 2023, 4:47 pm
by treeman
Here is another interesting tree I saw.. It would be possible to make something like this only if we throw all convention out the window and be willing to wait and see what the tree does after perhaps jumping on it a few times.
bujin red pine.JPG
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 21st, 2023, 7:22 pm
by SuperBonSaiyan
treeman wrote: ↑June 21st, 2023, 4:47 pm
Here is another interesting tree I saw.. It would be possible to make something like this only if we throw all convention out the window and be willing to wait and see what the tree does after perhaps jumping on it a few times.
bujin red pine.JPG
Now this one I like a lot more.
There's something about this one that looks more ancient than the other one.
I think it's the level of ramification. There's more of it in this one than the first.
Also the shadows under the top curves. Very appealing composition overall.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 22nd, 2023, 1:22 pm
by treeman
SuperBonSaiyan wrote: ↑June 21st, 2023, 7:22 pm
treeman wrote: ↑June 21st, 2023, 4:47 pm
Here is another interesting tree I saw.. It would be possible to make something like this only if we throw all convention out the window and be willing to wait and see what the tree does after perhaps jumping on it a few times.
bujin red pine.JPG
There's something about this one that looks more ancient than the other one.
Interesting. The first one more ancient to me.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 22nd, 2023, 6:20 pm
by tgward
the first could do with some lower trunk movement (but only a little) to avoid the straight - the second works ok cos the reverse taper is dealt with
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 23rd, 2023, 7:20 am
by Akhi
With such beautiful bark I would have preferred a musch more traditional looking tree something like this
IMG_20230623_071835.jpg
The way the tree goes back on itself inmho looks too contrived. I get that it's literati but would have preferred a more space tree for that.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 23rd, 2023, 8:18 am
by TimIAm
I feel these two trees are closer to Chinese stylings by using what the tree provides rather than forcing every branch into set structure. If you can appreciate the art of these trees away from what is viewed as required in Western tastes, then you should definitely give Chinese bonsai another look.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 23rd, 2023, 9:06 am
by treeman
Akhi wrote: ↑June 23rd, 2023, 7:20 am
The way the tree goes back on itself inmho looks too contrived.
If the tree looks contrived to you I would suggest that you may have a pre-constructed idea you are drawing from because this tree would have been collected and there is no contrivance in nature.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: June 23rd, 2023, 9:09 am
by treeman
TimIAm wrote: ↑June 23rd, 2023, 8:18 am
I feel these two trees are closer to Chinese stylings by using what the tree provides rather than forcing every branch into set structure. If you can appreciate the art of these trees away from what is viewed as required in Western tastes, then you should definitely give Chinese bonsai another look.
I have a small book on Chinese trees with and some a good but many are awful. Especially the deciduous ones.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: October 25th, 2023, 10:24 am
by SuperBonSaiyan
What do y'all think about this Akamatsu?
JRP.jpg
I like it, but I would change it in the following ways:
- remove the back left branch which breaks up the continuous green line
- rotate the front to where the blue triangle is so I can see more of the branching
JRP - edited.jpg
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: October 26th, 2023, 8:14 am
by treeman
It's very nice, but I would not be too quick to remove that branch but rather thin it out a bit. But either way.....
red pine.JPG
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: October 30th, 2023, 7:19 am
by SuperBonSaiyan
treeman wrote: ↑October 26th, 2023, 8:14 am
It's very nice, but I would not be too quick to remove that branch but rather thin it out a bit. But either way.....
red pine.JPG
The lower left branch is down at a sharper angle, so if I'd probably try to lower it to a similar angle and twist it around to the back for depth.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: October 30th, 2023, 10:23 am
by treeman
SuperBonSaiyan wrote: ↑October 30th, 2023, 7:19 am
treeman wrote: ↑October 26th, 2023, 8:14 am
It's very nice, but I would not be too quick to remove that branch but rather thin it out a bit. But either way.....
red pine.JPG
The lower left branch is down at a sharper angle, so if I'd probably try to lower it to a similar angle and twist it around to the back for depth.
Yeah you could do that. But then you are forcing it back into convention.
Re: Study of a literati pine.
Posted: October 31st, 2023, 10:01 am
by treeman
[ Tried to fix a spelling mistake and found I couldn't . Disregard this..