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Re: juniperus chinesis entry 2

Posted: November 3rd, 2009, 8:44 pm
by Jamie
...just wait til i get these sketches done ;) 8-) :D

Re: juniperus chinesis entry 2

Posted: November 3rd, 2009, 9:24 pm
by Jamie
you will have to excuse the sketches as i had to touch them up with photoshop to contrast as i couldnt scan, had to take a picture then etc, etc, you know the drill with resize and such.

first up is this one. i like it for a tall tree image. i think it will come out well :D
bunjin comp 012.jpg
and then this one aswell,
bunjin comp 011.jpg

out of 8 sketches these are the two i liked best. i think they will be very pheasable to come out with from this stock tree. the trunks work in line to it aswell :D cant be happier with that.

i think my plan will be to style. let it recover, feed it up big time, get some fine wiring happening and then it will be on a slab planting on a piece of slate. how long it will stay on the slate will be undecided as of yet but i look forward to the challenge and the process that i will be going through.

the inspiration for these two styles have come from the scholars paintings and drawings, and actual real life sceneries i have found on the net. i think i have a pretty good picture in mind of how it will turn out. sketch wise for a final will be hard as it will include a lot of detail and i dont think that will be possible. i am not that great a artist. i am now getting excited using this tree as i know what i am looking at doing is acheivable yet challenging, not just a straight run of the mill tree.

the final image will be along the lines of an old pine standing on a cliff ledge. just for a hint :D


jamie :D

Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 3rd, 2009, 11:05 pm
by kvan64
As I am new to bonsai, I don't have any aged stock and not prepared to pay heaps of money for one so I am going to use a peach tree I collected a couple months ago in Sep 2009. Some people may have seen my thread about peaches and nectarines. A lot of people think they are no good for bonsai let alone literati bonsai. However, as Bretts mentioned, it is encouraged to have a wide variety so that we can see what can be accomplished with various material. I'll give this one a fair go. I hope that I have a lot of support and help along the way.
Thanks heaps,
DK

Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 3rd, 2009, 11:08 pm
by Jamie
good to see something different getting used! well done. i think that your best angle will be pic. A. or B.

these two show the best movement and give a good feel to it, cant wait to see some branching.


jamie :D

Re: Traditional Literati Shimpaku

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 12:30 am
by anttal63
ryan; as stated, great work here! definately utelise the growing pot for now. im not sure on the final pot but right now im getting the feeling of something elegent, semi formal but refined. tell me have you played with different foliage configurations in virts? if so i would love to see them. good luck mate. :D ;)

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Re: shimpaku bunjingi entry 1

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 6:34 am
by dayne
hey its looking good what if you bent the scond branch down against the trunk and cut it and hormon powder it so it becomes a root and should fuse to the trunk in tim helping to create a bit more flair
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Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:23 am
by kvan64
Yep jamie, more branching then I'll see how I go about some carving to create taper for the top part. Any idea for quick budding and improving foliage? Any suggestion for fertilizing program? I got super thrive, seasol and some general slow-release stuffs.

Re: Traditional Literati Shimpaku

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:29 am
by kvan64
Very nice. I think this one is closer to completion than any other current entry here. I agree on the reduction of the pot size to improve the illusion of a bigger tree. However, I would leave it in the slightly bigger pot for now to help with growing.

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Re: juniperus chinesis entry 2

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:38 am
by kvan64
Nice sketches and good vision again jamie. However, I think a lone tree standing on the edge of a cliff often bends more and have broader foliage distribution. Your design reflects more of a tree in a dense forest strungling to reach sun light. It actually telling a its story there.

Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 1:04 pm
by kcpoole
I like the 3rd photo actually

Ken

Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 1:34 pm
by kvan64
Thanks Ken, I'll try to make it the front view after minor carving at the top bent

Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 2:30 pm
by bonsaibruce
I think you will find the peach will shoot low down on the old wood if you try to keep the Literati style. Mine have all turned into shorter trees with age.
Wire and shape the branches with great care as they are very brittle, even when very dry. I have tried heavy copper wire, but have found tie downs and clamps the best. In Brisbane they do not like full sun and if mine look wilted when I get home, I know it is watering time to water.
I have lilly pillys with pink flowers to give away.
Good luck,
BB

Re: Common Peach - Literati - is it possible?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 2:44 pm
by kvan64
Thanks Bruce for the advice. And oh, my uncles and I didn't end up going back to that farm to dig more peaches. If you are interested in obtaining some of these, let me know. I will wait till the school holidays when I have more free time and there will be more decent rainfall to soften the soil. You could go and dig them up with me then.
Cheers,
DK

Re: Windswept-Literati Juniper - Entry No#1

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 3:45 pm
by Pup
kvan64 wrote:
Pup wrote:
THE STYLE IS BUNJINGI( LITERATI) full stop. :shock:
Sounds like this entry is ...doomed :(
In your final submission just call it by the style. Then we will not dock points :!: :? Pup

Re: Traditional Literati Shimpaku

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 4:37 pm
by anttal63
Ryan1979b wrote:Cheers all, no i haven't really played with to many other foliage structures as of yet, the upper branches are still pretty young & i guess i was pretty happy with it so far so might let it grow out a bit & see where it heads :) I tend to have a habit of fiddling with things to much & wrecking them...hehehehe :?

I might have a go at a few more sketches & future possibilities, when I do I will post them up. you have any cool ideas in mind. I agree with Mela's and am considering the idea of bending the straight section but in doing that I am worried that it will reduce the height & the top foliage will be bought closer to the ground?

Cheers all
i personally dont see a problem with the straight bit because it is in character with the straight bits up higher. mel is talking only a little bend and that shouldnt effect the height too much but it could upset the balance of your configuration. yes i do have some ideas for alternative branch configurations but its your job to play with that first. on paper that is. :P :D ;)

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